BOOTSTRAPPING 23 upvotes 2009

Ask HN: Payroll for bootstrapped startups?

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2009 · Shared by @stanleydrew
Ask HN: Payroll for bootstrapped startups? by @stanleydrew

The Founder's Submission

Direct narrative and submission text authored by @stanleydrew on Hacker News:

For those of you bootstrapping a startup or who have in the past, how do you handle payroll once money starts trickling in? Assume you're set up as an S-corp or LLC with a couple of shareholders/members but you don't necessarily want to distribute profits in proportion to ownership. Is there a good payroll company for software-startups or should I go down to my bank and see what they have to offer?

Retrospective Overview & Key Insights

Distilled reflections, business mechanics, and tactical takeaways:

Published in 2009, this chronicle by @stanleydrew details the mechanics of building a profitable, self-funded business without venture backing.

Core Principles for Independent Builders:
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Charging customers from day one acts as the ultimate filter for building software that solves genuine, high-urgency problems.
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Keeping fixed overhead low and leveraging lean infrastructure allows founders to stay alive until market tailwinds kick in.
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Small, repetitive improvements in customer retention and conversion rates yield massive returns over multi-year horizons.
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The community focused on B2B customer acquisition channels, cold email vs SEO distribution, and balancing full-time employment with side-project development.

Community Discussions & Critical Reviews

Key perspectives, counter-arguments, and peer founder insights debated on Hacker News (35 total discussions):

NI @nickadams Peer Contributor
MA @mattmaroon Peer Contributor

We use ADP. It's not very expensive and they do a good job of handling everything. I hear it can be quite costly if you're having people punch in and out, but for just a few guys programming on salary the cost is less than you'll probably spend on coffee.

Anyone who has a small team of engineers and does it themselves is insane. You'd gain more from staying in the programming zone for 5 minutes than you'd save in processing costs.

IL @ilener Peer Contributor

We are a startup in Palo Alto and have developed accounting and payroll integrated into one web-based product called Exponent. It's much more functional than QuickBooks AND less expensive.

Here's the online demo login:

https://www.thinkexponent.com/ ↗ e-mail: [email protected] password: demo

Payroll is located in the Accounting tab.

MA @mattculbreth Peer Contributor

We use Bank of America--really easy. They handle everything for us except for the initial setup with the Federal and State governments--you still have to get your IDs and what not.

NOTE: make sure you get some accounting guidance here. It matters how you do this if you want to minimize taxes.

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