BOOTSTRAPPING 6 upvotes 2011

Ask HN: work for Apple or continue bootstrapping my startup

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2011 · Shared by @throwawayapple
Ask HN: work for Apple or continue bootstrapping my startup by @throwawayapple

The Founder's Submission

Direct narrative and submission text authored by @throwawayapple on Hacker News:

I need HN's advice. I have been bootstrapping a first startup that failed. Now I am starting a new one, but no income in sight.

On the other hand, Apple is offering me a high-paying job as a senior developer. Because it's Apple and their working conditions are crazy, plus all the secrecy, there is just no way to pursue a bootstrapped startup on the side. For Apple, you're all in or you are out.

What should I do?

[kept anonymous for obvious reasons]

Retrospective Overview & Key Insights

Distilled reflections, business mechanics, and tactical takeaways:

Published in 2011, this chronicle by @throwawayapple details the mechanics of building a profitable, self-funded business without venture backing.

Core Principles for Independent Builders:
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Charging customers from day one acts as the ultimate filter for building software that solves genuine, high-urgency problems.
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Keeping fixed overhead low and leveraging lean infrastructure allows founders to stay alive until market tailwinds kick in.
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Small, repetitive improvements in customer retention and conversion rates yield massive returns over multi-year horizons.
Community Debate Themes:

The community focused on B2B customer acquisition channels, cold email vs SEO distribution, and balancing full-time employment with side-project development.

Community Discussions & Critical Reviews

Key perspectives, counter-arguments, and peer founder insights debated on Hacker News (12 total discussions):

DR @drKarl Peer Contributor
TW @twog Peer Contributor
TH @theThirdMan Peer Contributor

Not a hacker by any means, but I think any entrepreneur should have the same qualities.

If you are even asking this question, especially for others to decide for you, you should just take the Apple job.

The start-up will only be a success if you KNOW it will. You cant be predisposed to having any doubts. You seem to lack the confidence and determination required to be an entrepreneur. I'm sorry if it seems I am being harsh, but it takes more than an idea to become successful with something like this.

ST @steventruong Peer Contributor

This is just an assumption but I assume you applied for the job at Apple and must have had some sort of interview to know that its a high paying gig. If you've gone that far, coupled with what others have already echoed, Apple should be the right choice for you.

KE @keiferski Peer Contributor

A startup business is supposed to make money. Don't get caught up in the "oh, we'll worry about revenues later" nonsense.

If you have no idea how your startup will make money, get the job at Apple.

HISTORICAL ERA Web 2.0 Genesis (2007–2013)
COMMUNITY SCORE 6 points
TOTAL DISCUSSIONS 12 comments
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