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Ask HN: Would you change pricing if users are only taking lifetime deals?

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Ask HN: Would you change pricing if users are only taking lifetime deals? by @jainvivek

The Founder's Submission

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Or would you push recurring plans by adding more features and enhancements?

Retrospective Overview & Key Insights

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An open Ask HN community consultation from 2024 where @jainvivek convened hundreds of developers and bootstrappers to share real experiences, hard numbers, and tactics.

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Community Discussions & Critical Reviews

Key perspectives, counter-arguments, and peer founder insights debated on Hacker News (30 total discussions):

NO @novitzmann Peer Contributor
CO @codingdave Peer Contributor

Do the math - say you get 1000 customers who buy lifetime deals. And nobody else. How much does it cost you to keep the product alive for those 1000 customers, and how long is your runway using the money from those 1000 deals at that cost? Is that runway an acceptable "lifetime" in the view of those customers?

If you get good answers from that math, maybe it makes sense. But I'd wager that most business models don't have good numbers in such a scenario.

HI @hiAndrewQuinn Peer Contributor

Yes. If everyone chooses the lifetime deal and nobody is choosing the recurring deal, it probably means the lifetime deal is much better than the recurring deal for all segments of your userbase.

You should ideally keep increasing the lifetime deal price until you hit the point where you see a non-negligible number of people choose the recurring plan first, then decide where to go from there. That's just common sense for the profit-maximizer.

BR @brudgers Peer Contributor

If I had business concerns, I would talk to users and try to understand why some pick recurring payments and why others pick one time purchases.

Then I would reconsider my offerings based on how each group provides or does not provide business opportunities.

Anyway raising the price of the lifetime product is the simplest way to encourage price sensitive customers into recurring plans. If that doesn’t change their choice, revenue increases.

MO @mouse_ Peer Contributor

Assuming your product is for individuals, I would listen to my customers, and move away from services and towards the "purchase once" model of old, guaranteeing maybe 1 or 2 major updates.

If your product is for business and production, I would simply remove the lifetime purchase option.

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