BOOTSTRAPPING 298 upvotes 2013

Explicit bootstrapping of pip in Python installations

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2013 · Shared by @oellegaard
Explicit bootstrapping of pip in Python installations by @oellegaard

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Published in 2013, this chronicle by @oellegaard details the mechanics of building a profitable, self-funded business without venture backing.

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Charging customers from day one acts as the ultimate filter for building software that solves genuine, high-urgency problems.
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Keeping fixed overhead low and leveraging lean infrastructure allows founders to stay alive until market tailwinds kick in.
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Small, repetitive improvements in customer retention and conversion rates yield massive returns over multi-year horizons.
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The community focused on B2B customer acquisition channels, cold email vs SEO distribution, and balancing full-time employment with side-project development.

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JD @jdp Peer Contributor
SH @shadowmint Peer Contributor
10 @100k Peer Contributor

Python packaging has been a nightmare compared to RubyGems (which is not without its own problems, of course). See for example this rant by a major Python developer: http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2012/6/22/hate-hate-hate-everywhere/ ↗

This sounds like a great step forward to me in making Python packages easy to create, install, and uninstall!

BA @babarock Peer Contributor

Vaguely related, this wonderful article by Paul Tagliamonte on how pip coexists with distro package managers (in this case APT): http://notes.pault.ag/debian-python/ ↗

Nice reminder that pip is a dev tool and should be used as such. It makes sense to be included in Python.

BB @bbernoulli Peer Contributor

I like pip, but it's too bad that it can only install from source. It's quite a hassle sometimes to round up dependencies and build them all on windows (not to mention not everyone has a compiler installed on windows).

easy_install can install from binary installers or eggs. I'd like to see that added to pip.

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